Two Newbies

I can't say I recognize either one of these models.  

See comments.  A trio of wise men say this is Fred (no last name) on the left and Norman Johns on the right.  I posted an awesome photo of Norman almost two years ago to the day.  Check it out.  

Early AMG

Norman Johns from AMG.  My question is: did Mizer make the smoke rings or did Norman?  Either way, it's a great photo!